new vegas why do people defend the legion

The Decimation is in hopes of deterring soldiers from making stupid decisions. Killing him is pointless -- killing him and then telling Eddie about it is suicide. Long live the Republic! It's easy for us living in our comfortable world to say, "That's not worth the price of the Legion's brutal methods." So it occurs to me that, no matter how much I research, there is NOTHING defending the legion. In that sense, I don't consider the Legion to be "what we got" over "what it is". The Legion are cruel slavers who crucify those they deem degenerate. Acquisition of slaves via conquest made up a big part of their economy. People easily forgot shitty things in Obsidian/Interplay games. [–]SigournAsk me about New Vegas mods 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children). Reasons to support the Empire: Caesar is trying to recreate Rome, but he only seems interested in all the bad parts of roman society like the torture, slavery, crucifixion, and decimation. [–]TheWombatFromHellNCR 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children). [–]superlucci 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (2 children). People like him because it is easy to fall in love with social Darwinism and authoritarianism when society breaks down and people are pushed to the limit. Is this a known bug, or have I missed something? The resolution comes on the heels of a statement released a few weeks ago by American Legion National Commander Denise H. Rohan, who sent her condolences to the victims and their families affected by the mass shooting in Las Vegas. I still believe the Nords can be independent, save their race and culture from the effects of diversification, cosmopolitanism and amalgamation and fight alongside the empire against the Thalmor. Then Caesar dies and all goes to ♥♥♥♥. and slowly turn the wasteland into your own kingdom by acquisition instead of Legion-like conquest and NCR forced assimilation. Someone's analysis also read that the corruption is actually less than that of industrial revolution America. Or maybe I'm just rewriting the Legion in my head in a lame attempt to make their story more defensible... Obsidian time-restraints tho, [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children). It's very easy to shit on the Legion when everything we get to see is what they do on the frontline and on their early stages of development (whereas the NCR is already fully developed in that regard, what you see is what you get and it is not going to change). Hi! [–]ltsBuck 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). Seen some topics that custom clothing don't show in cutscenes like Breakpoint bivouac. The consensus came to the corruption existing but not being nation breaking. They raped and pillaged and enslaved and killed their way to the largest land kingdom, but that kingdom was possibly the most tolerant and safest kingdom, with "a naked virgin able to travel from one end to the other blindfolded and a pot of gold on her head", unaccosted. What he says make sense in a world where only the strong can survive. Additionally raiders are only ever mentioned along caravan routes which often travel in unpopulated areas. ". "Justice" is swift and cruel. Women actually had more rights in Ancient Rome than they do in the legion, and even slaves had some rights. If Benny escaped from The Tops at the conclusion of Ring-a-Ding-Ding! That same Roman civilization produced huge amounts of literature, beautiful works of art and architecture, and a safe empire that lasted for several centuries. Your Royal Canadian Legion is committed to making a difference in the lives of Veterans and their families, providing essential services in our communities, and remembering the men and women who sacrificed for our country. [–]CogentHyena 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). he w… Stuff like that, [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). I sided with them during my evil play through of the game. -- Et tu, Courier"! Elimination of all subgroups and ethnicities until there is only one: Legion. 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). The Legion is best paired with the reasoning of "Order over Civility, Survival of the fittest" similar to the Paradise Falls slavers, the idea is that the weak are incorporated into the society of the strong, and the strong grow the society. Livestream promotion not allowed. I let Boone put a bullet in his brain every time. The Legion of Super-Heroes is a fictional superhero team appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics.Created by writer Otto Binder and artist Al Plastino, the Legion is a group of superpowered beings living in the 30th and 31st centuries of the DC Comics Universe, and first appears in Adventure Comics #247 (April 1958). In those days people didn't like mixing out and valued their autonomy and homogeneity. In Fallout you fight multiple raiders at a time, all the time. In the 1800s however growing industrialization and advances in machinery was a significant factor in the abolition of slavery. User Info: beans_please. Not long into their travels, the group was captured by the Blackfoot tribe and held for ransom.At the time, the tribe warred against seven other tribes and suffered from a lack of skill in warfare. Gee, I guess when you kill so many more people than otherwise would be needed for a Sane/Safe society, you end up not having that many troublesome people, since you killed them all and then some. So clearly this is a man of high intelligence! [–]Coltactt 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (4 children), I always saw the legion as the "necessary evil" to tame the wastes. Or, instead of enemies so tough you can't reasonably kill them, have numerous enemies that don't stop coming until your dead. As in Kai- zar... __ User Info: Nyflheim. Not really, many ISIS leaders worked for the secular government of Saddam Hussein previously. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. The legion is even more expansionist than the NCR and they're much more violent about it. The thing that stands out is the fact that, out of the factions warring over the New Vegas Strip, none of them are really that awesome. Fallout 76 PSA: Santatron Collectron gathers Holiday Gifts for you. [–]Vault121 -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (4 children), [–]Swampeyaway1 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (3 children). I went to Caeser's fort to try and join the Legion, but I just couldn't take it. "Cartoonishly evil" refers to a fictional entity being so evil it's like they're basically a cartoon villain, black and white. But then things fell in disarray and new people came and raped and pillaged and killed with their iron fist first then adjusted to a more well-being stance. But hey, wanting to subject over 50% of the population to rape and slavery isnt that bad. 200 Years and abundant illiteracy will do that. So people like to find the grey in the legion cause, even if they have to reach very far to get it. I understand liking the Legion in that they're an interesting faction, but as a rule I don't trust anyone who thinks they're not pure evil. They do also buy slaves, as for the Mojave residents, they are mostly from Nipton(Who Legion hates) and the NCR(Who Legion hates). A town you later find out was full of crooks and gangbangers. [–]shorewall37 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (5 children). level 2. The Nords are ruled over against their will by a foreign empire; 2.) Or underage from a captured tribe, for that matter. As others have noted, it is the correct classical pronunciation—or as close as could reasonably be expected. 2. The Stormcloaks are racist, just like everyone else in Tamriel? The sale of slaves brings them material benefit. Because they're interesting. The reason some people defend Legion slavery is because they state industrial revolution during times such as that requires manual labor from slavery, but the Legion or Caesar went ahead and put a road block on said industrial revolution, which would mean they are in a loop with no discernible path to get out of slavery, kind of like real life. Anyone who has a solid base in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has the upper hand once the fight hits the ground. [–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children). These are men away from their wives and families, if they are allowed to have those in the first place, for an extended period of time. They have seen poverty, political instability, disease and war. [–]SabyZNCR 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children), killing and enslaving a large amount of the population. [+]Vault121 comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points 3 years ago (5 children). They are the Viet Cong to the NCR's Marines. Fallout: New Vegas has been scientifically proven to be the greatest game of all-time, and you can’t argue with science. [–]krackbaby 40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (11 children). It is not the home Caesar wants for his carefully crafted copy of the Roman Empire. The following member of the dynasty is lighter, and loved--the hard stuff has already been done. Raider attacks arent much of a problem to the people within the area anymore because the Legion protects it. Why religious people 'cling' to beliefs even when contradicted by evidence. They, too, committed ridiculous mass murders in order to ensure that their soldiers were the only adult men standing in an area, and then they pacified it by taking the women and children as slaves. [–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children), absolutely. [–]MarxistSociologist -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (1 child). They are basically ISIS of the wasteland. [–]SigournAsk me about New Vegas mods 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children). They enslave Tribals in hopes that they will eventually toughen up and become soldiers. I don't think that "legion at war" is actually all that removed from the philosophy of the rest of their territory. The Royal British Legion won't be selling Remembrance Day poppies in "certain areas" this year because they offend some minorities. Ways to give Things to do Poppy Appeal Remembrance “I love being a member. We did. The notion that every country is for everyone and that no race or culture has a right to be preserved as the majority anywhere, even in their native lands, is a 21st century progressive globalist ideology and has no place in a game set in the middle ages. [–]whiskeymedic 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). Reminds me of Breakpoint. As Raul says, "I've been to Arizona, boss. [–]Swampeyaway1 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]huntimir151 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). Civilisation is not quite the word you're looking for. Speaking of food, in martial societies the slaves tend to be the ones who work the land, because it is beneath a warrior caste. so yes u are right, the Legion does win. You consider that encounter amazing ? I recently started replaying Fallout: New Vegas as I didn't finish most of the Dlc and generally wanted to know how it holds up next to FO4. They're a really chilling villain. They made a Pax Romana, and it was great! ", you just do it. [–]Vault121 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child). It comes across as just another "for the evils" tactic. Raiders aren't attacking day glow and Redding. When are you gonna figure it out? What's the point of using unpaid human labor that requires feeding and a place to sleep and always has a possibility of lashing out against their oppressors or owners when you can build a machine that can do ten times the work, doesn't complain and only requires a bit of maintenance to do its job? Elder Maxson was a bigot, but if you dig deep into his motivations it's really to eliminate ferals and super mutants as well as a dangerously dogmatic obsession with hoarding tech but for the twisted purposes of "protecting" people. ), [–]flipdark95Brotherhood I make stuff I guess 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (9 children). But in recently-subjugated lands, you wouldn't know it. I'm relatively new to Reddit in that I didn't have it when I played Oblivion/Fallout 3/New Vegas/Skyrim a lot, so Fallout 4 is almost all I've discussed and read about in this sub. [–]SigournAsk me about New Vegas mods 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (9 children). This produces seasoned warriors, expert caretakers, and a strong/experienced workforce. Not by our standards, but even by the Wasteland's, that's a stretch. No, I will not "admit" something that I don't believe is true. This is also evidenced by the khans as they flee the states and enter the mojave fearing the ncr crackdown. Less violent because they run shit in their sphere of influence, but the reason they run shit in the first place is because they're brutal af. He has no governing or tactical ability really, all he is really good at is hitting stuff. there was never a doubt in my mind that the sexist, crucifixion obsessed slavers were the definitive "evil" faction in the game. Intelligence- 1 Legion… It\'s currently in development. Unless you're a woman. Well, as I said, terrain plays a big role. It was just so annoying in the first few years after Skyrim came out when the internet was full of 14 year old 'enlightened' SJW narcissists condemning everyone for playing as a Stormcloak because they are"racist". There are no pure villains in real life, none. (Well, not our current use of the word -- it does fit the original meaning -- "doing what the Romans tell you to do"). To me they are not even morally grey sure they keep their roads safe but the fact that completely devastating a town is okay to them is atrocious ( yes the town was corrupt but did everyone need to suffer I doubt everyone was bad). It's very unfair, but a population of labourers that do everything you need them to do is effective. Exactly. I always hear people talk about how the legion is such a "morally gray" faction and it's all about how "the ends justify the means", but I just don't see it that way. It's why I find Age of Decadence so engaging in the "danger" regard. To the Ship! In Fallout you fight multiple raiders at a time, all the time. I whipped out my .22 pistol I concealed, started pelting Caeser with like 20 points of damage at most, and just ran around and shot everyone while they tried to punch me. With Lanius basically being a monster who will tear everyone apart who is not in his image. You are trying to destroy the oil rig, so he tries to stop you. The Legion needs fighters, and it needs a constant supply of them - absorbing small tribes from out in the desert isn't enough anymore to replenish the Legion. No, it would only get more stringent. [–]BoobieBoobieButtButt 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). [–]SigournAsk me about New Vegas mods 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). The arena is located directly below Caesar's tent and is comprised of a small pit with walls of scrap metal and an entrance gate. Get involved . Very well put, much better than I could ever hope for. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children), I end the legion on every new vegas play through, [–]Langager90Bullseye 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). Besides, Skyrim is set in a period equivalent to our Middle Ages. This continues until everything falls into disarray, where the human-survival is at risk, where another dynasty comes up and takes over with a new iron fist. [–]HughesJohnEnclave 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children), Not me, honestly. We need enemies to shoot at, lest it would be a rather boring game and so we need some people who are evil with no complicated morals behind them and so we have the Raiders, or Fiends on FNV. To me, that would've fit much better with the ending where you kill Mr. House and claim New Vegas for your own. Incoming! People who want to diss economics like to refer to it as the "dismal science", forgetting why Carlyle called it that. Caesar clearly states in his dialogue that his entire goal for taking over the Mojave, ins't just to expand, it's to transform his nomadic empire, into a true state with real staying power. Fallout: New Vegas. [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). The idea is supposed to be that Legion territory offers safety, stability and prosperity without the corruption and inefficiency of the NCR, but at the cost of any kind of meaningful personal liberty or basic standards of morality. [+][deleted] comment score below threshold-17 points-16 points-15 points 3 years ago (2 children). If they overwork them and the slaves die, so be it. Their are plenty of cases where Legion soldiers can be found with quite advanced tech on them. Yes they are villains, and yes they are evil, but they're not cartoonishly evil. They're "good" in the sense that you really want to learn about this society, how it works and why. [–]kecaw 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children). (The God Of War) Charisma- 1 The Legion has no time to talk to Profligates. Could you recommend a build for me? To date, about 50 have been identified. Personally I don't defend the Legion because I don't mind a bit of bureaucracy if it means I can fill out some paperwork and have an armed squad come clear out the mole rats that ate my cat. In the year 2246, the Followers of the Apocalypse sent a group of nine members to the Arizona wastelands to study the region’s tribal languages. [+]Brandonmac10 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (3 children). Yes, the legion is evil but it's the type of interesting evil. The only half good one I've heard is "oh muh antithisis" and most common one is "But it's a wasteland". It was about U.S. Army soldier Matthew Cobos who risked … He is basically what people see as someone who had the ability to gain power and control that fast in the wasteland, yet uses the methods he does to attain it. F:NV focuses well on having 4 factions (NCR, Legion, House, and Yes Man) that all work. There is no logical reason for them underequipping troops with what amounts to a few bits of leather and a big knife. The topic of Caesar's Legion is one that is discussed endlessly with many here on the boards giving only partial support, if any at all, to the Legion for many reasons. Everyone else has already explained why they'll fall, but it seems no one explains the choice they instead advance and use better technology. The legion are brutal but they take care of their own people and whats theirs. But because hes a super smart charismatic hypocrite, people think hes deep. You'd be pretty grateful. The production of new soldiers. 100% evil but he happens to talk real nice like. I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Caesar is trying to recreate Rome, but he only seems interested in all the bad parts of roman society like the torture, slavery, crucifixion, and decimation. There is no logic to using slaves unless you're a society like the Legion that has deliberately restricted the use of technology for idealogical reasons even though its leader uses technology to keep himself healthy. [–]HughesJohnEnclave 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). However, another influential organization was notably absent from the public defense: the NAACP. The Legion had the potential to be the most interesting faction to ever grace a Fallout game. You keep that in mind and its no wonder every time the Legion talks about the NCR all they talk about is how corrupt it is. A mostly peaceful, if somewhat selfish leader. Because of Caesar's ideology, it is also likely then that this is why he has held out on declaring an official heir. From what Caesar says, and I agree, the Legion you see now is only "temporary" until the NCR is annexed and the Legion thus transformed. Though he does terrible, unforgivable things, he doesn't see himself as "evil": everything he does is for a good reason in his eyes. Being a part of the Empire, even if it will make fighting the Thalmor easier, will still cost the Nords their homogeneity due to the typical globalisation and migration effect that empires have. More than 1 in 10 of your posts or comments being self-promotional is spamming. It's cruel, but very logical. Boones wife, for one. I like that idea, it would make the late game feel less trivial. Yeah, I didn't kill Benny at the tops, and he ran to The Fort. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (15 children). They want to take Poland back from the German occupiers; they want to bring back the Polish language and they want to kick out the unwanted sub-Saharan migrants. [–]terminbee 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (6 children). [–]Vault121 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (4 children). Everyone who thinks the Legion is evil doesn't see past what the game shows you in present time, as opposed to looking at the future ahead. Really ? One thing I always think about, though, is how Yes Man says he is going away to become "more assertive". ), [–]AltusIsXDLONG LIVE THE BEAR 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). There's a trophy for killing him with a knife. [–]Katamariguy1 END 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). Seems like 24 other people agree with me. People seem to forget the NCR has tanks and vertibirds. They could have kidnapped them if they really wanted to, but killing them was a far easier solution that effectively achieved the exact same goal. The raiders in the ncr are merely a nuisance not a real threat. [–]pieceofchess 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children). He lays on the symbolism pretty thick himself, calling the Colorado river his Rubicon, New Vegas his Rome. The "traders are safer in Legion territory" is just a "he makes the trains run on time" argument. I don't know if you forgot high school history but slaves have been historically an extremely valuable commodity that pays for itself and more, [–]JakalDXAradesh died for this shit 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children). there is no point where any of these factions have something that we can point to and say "this is an indefensible flaw, an error that cannot be rationalized or fixed". The NCR was supposed to be more corrupt and the legion was supposed to be less evil. Sure, New Vegas was riddled with bugs, the combat is bland, and it didn’t exactly look pretty even when it was released in 2010. Not only that, but many of the advanced tech that the NCR has that the Legion does not, is already extremely limited. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America), Português - Brasil (Portuguese - Brazil), Which is the best Iron revolver in the game. From the looks of their settlement, there was probably more that they intended to do with the Khans and then it was nixed or they never got around to it. Legion only actually enslaves tribal women, and only militarises tribal men. You can argue about it all you wish, but my opinion on that wont change sadly. Confusing the two is literally what they teach you NOT to do in English classes. Is he evil? [–]MxPlumeOverBitch Wannabe 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (5 children). [–]krackbaby 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (8 children). If Walmart truly had slaves, the slaves wouldn't have a choice here. Even in the game, the places where I tend to find Legion soldiers are sort of uneven, hilly, rough terrains where uniforms, heavy guns and power armor don't count as much. A tricky thing about safety and security in games is that as the all powerful protagonist, you will be safe and secure no matter what. 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